associating them with church doctrine is getting tiresome.
A Mr. Richard Easton expressed my sentiments on this subject:
" The real problem is the US mythology that religion and government can be
separated. Three propositions prove the point.
(1) All nations must have laws.
law, even administrative law, is enacted morality).
(3) All morality depends on beliefs that cannot be subjected to the
scientific method and are, thus, religious beliefs - even if they are
So government is the process of legislating someone's religious beliefs. The
vital question is whose religious beliefs should underpin our law and
Community standards define the parameters of that particular communities
values. They are the 'center' of that community, which define an entire host
of limits, priorities, and values. The question is exactly the one Mr.
Easton poses above,."someone's" beliefs are always going to take precedence.
James Madison, a founding father, put it this way, "We have staked the whole
future of our new nation, not upon the power of government; far from it. We
have staked the future of all our political constitutions upon the capacity
of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles
of the Ten Commandments." - James Madison.
The dangers of so-called Christian fundamentalism touted by modern day
secular humanists to American government is a contemptible lie at best, and
hysterical nonsense at worst. Over two hundred years of American Christian
majorities have created the most free and tolerant society in the world. All
law has , as its underpinning, a code of morality . The vast majority (98
percent and I can prove it) of founding fathers were Christians, and our
founding documents ciited the Bible more than any other source. Most
expressed George Washington's sentiments, when he said in an speech in 1796.
"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,
religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man
claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great
pillars of human happiness - these firmest props of the duties of men and
citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect
and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with
private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security
for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation
desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of
justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can
be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of
refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both
forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of
religious principle." - George Washington, Sept. 17, 1796
Once again, to discredit any community standard based on Christian morality
is a pathetic straw man, as all standards and laws are based on "someone's"
morality. Christian morality is as valid as anyone elses. What prefers one
over the other is democracy in action.
All law is based on an underpinning of "someone's" morality. My point is that Judeo-Christian morality is as valid as atheistic, agnostic, pagans, or any other. I think Judeo Christian principles are the foundation of western civilization and far superior to any other. In any case, the Constitution does not prefer one over the other.
Constitutional rights are violated for being inconvenienced due to a community standard.